Wednesday, March 10, 2010

False Prophet Ernie Knoll Admits He Was Lying

The Board of Trustees for this false prophet's website caught him red-handed sending fraudulent messages while posing as various alter-egos and they confronted him about it. He admitted that he had been purposely deceiving everyone and decided to finally stop the charade. A few days later he changed his mind and tried to rationalize his deception and is once again claiming to be a prophet.

07/22/2009 - NOTICE FROM 4HisPeople Board: The 4 His People Ministry Board learned of some very disturbing information the week of July 15. This information has led us to believe that though the dreams appear to be of a supernatural source, we now believe that this source was of Satan. Along with the meetings being cancelled and no future meetings authorized by the board, please know that Ernie and Becky Knoll are suspended from any activity related to the 4 His People Ministry.

Please cease contributing funds to this ministry.

For those of you who read the testimony and/or received emails from someone going by the name of “Candace”, we were able to determine through tracking email IP information, that Ernie Knoll is “Candace”. When pressed, he admitted to this on July 21 at 2:43pm in a phone call to two ministry board members. We have also determined that the “Great Commission Counsel” is also Ernie Knoll.

We urge everyone who has a “dream book” to throw it away, as we now understand that there are mind control elements in it.

We sincerely apologize to all who have read and believed these messages. We pray that those whose lives have been affected, including those of us on this ministry team and our families, will find closure. Thankfully, we have a loving Savior in Jesus Christ who is willing to forgive all who come to Him with sincere repentance.

While we have concerns about some of the arguments and statements made by those who openly opposed the dreams, we apologize to you specifically. We may at some time in the future ask that you consider the unscriptural positions taken, but it is clearly not appropriate at this time.

Please know that all of us involved in this ministry, only ever wanted to serve in the cause of Christ, to win souls for the kingdom. It is our prayer that those who have returned to Jesus, as a result of these messages, will not cast Him aside. While we cannot trust in man’s opinions, we can trust Jesus. Always look to Jesus for light and strength. May He find us ready, when He returns.

4 His People Ministry Board

07/17/2009 - NOTICE FROM ERNIE: We know this will come as a shock, but we have come to believe that the dreams are not of God. Even though there was truth in them, there was also error. We believe that Candace may have been an evil angel. I also received personal dreams that were obviously not from God. We will be putting a notice on our website soon. Our future meetings have been cancelled. ... Thank you.

Satan knows his time is short and is working to deceive even the very elect. We are so sorry and pray that the Lord will guide us into all truth.

Love & prayers
Ernie & Becky

07/22/2009 - NOTICE FROM Ernie and Becky reportedly sent to some supporters:

From: Ernie and Becky Knoll
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 11:30 AM
To: Ernie and Becky Knoll
Subject: Public confession

Dear One,

By now you may have heard or read that Candace was a hoax. I created “her” to try to deter some of the negative things that people were saying about the ministry and it went downhill from there. (Becky did not learn about it until a couple days ago.) The dreams were also not from God. I want to say I am truly sorry and want to ask for forgiveness. Becky wants to ask for your forgiveness as well that she was deceived. We have repented of our sins and pray that healing will come to you and all those we have affected. On a positive note, we are glad that the Creeping Compromise book has gone out to many people.

If you have sent donations to us, we plan to pay it back if and when we are able.

In His mercy and gracious love…Ernie and Becky

P.S. We hope to get a public confession up on the 4 His People website very soon.

UPDATE:

Now he has again changed his mind and decided to keep pretending that his dreams are real and, unbelievably, blames those who were opposed to his dreams all along for forcing him to lie and create the false emails from "candace" and the "great commission council." Below are excerpts from his recanting of his recanting:

"He logged into the forum and posted the testimony of “Candace.” Ernie
noticed as he created the story that the words flowed easily." ...

"Then many of the detractors
published their beliefs about the dreams. This is when Ernie was “inspired” to create
the Great Commission Council." ...

"We have learned of at least three reasons for Ernie being deceived and deceiving.
First it was because of the opposition on the forums that caused him to get
discouraged." ...

"Secondly, it was a
lack of faith that God would take care of His ministry and last of all, because of a low
self-esteem."

Yes, you read that correctly...he actually blames the Christians who stood opposed to his false dreams for forcing him to lie and deceive others.

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My original article discussing Ernie Knoll can be read here.

75 comments:

  1. We have all sinned but how many of us are claiming to be in communication with God and delivering God's messages to His last day people? That, my friend, calls for the highest moral standard... someone who is above reproach. It is one thing to be forgiven, it's an entirely other thing to then go on serving in a capacity where the sin occurred. God forgives those who genuinely ask but THERE ARE CONSEQUENCE to our sins and actions here on earth.

    Should a pastor who had an affair with someone, in the congregation, be allowed to continue in the capacity as pastor? I think we could all agree that although this pastors sins could be forgiven, it would be gross negligence to have him in the capacity of pastor over a congregation again.

    The same applies to Ernie… several of his dreams contain prophecies that never came true... 'THE GIANT PEACH' being one of them. He clearly falsified information, made up stuff and cannot be trusted in a prophetic roll again. I find it hard to believe that God cannot raise up someone to take Ernie's place. I also find it hard to believe that God would require His people to rely on a 'prophet' who publicly fell off the wagon!

    Food for thought!

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  2. I think we can all agree that there has been enough controversy around Ernie to raise questions in most peoples minds.  It's not just the made up biblical study group, or the false testimonies, or the dreams that were false, it's also the personal interactions.  Unless you are calling for the abandonment of the Seventh Day Adventist church, the official position of the church is that Ernie's dreams are not trustworthy.  Continuing down the road of Ernie requires a lot of faith in a man, not in GOD!

    You sight people in high places,in the Bible, who were forgiven... you neglected to mention the penalties that David, in particular, faced for his sin.  He lost his baby  son, was kicked out of his kingdom by his own family's hostile takeover etc.  We are talking years of sorrow and hardship.  Now compare that with Ernie... Apples to Oranges my friend!

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  3. I also note that Ernie's dreams have no new light!  Why would God send a prophet to say the same things we already have in Ellen White?  Tell me what 'new light' Ernie has brought to us?  That right there makes him irrelevant.

    Add to it that any sort of attempt at actual verifiable  prophecies are so backloaded with caveats that they  are laughable.  It makes for a good way out for Ernie but only adds more doubt.  Take for example the Giant Peach dream... If no repentance happened at the GC in Atlanta, as clearly indicated by Ernie's own website, then the prophecies of the Giant Peach should have happened!  The whole point of telling people about a conditional prophecy is so that they will change their ways so the disaster dose not happen.  So either the church has changed its ways or Ernie was false here!

    If you are listening to Ernie WATCH OUT!!!

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  4. http://clubadventist.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/371020/Re_Atlanta_still_alive.html

    Check the above link out. I also note that the Giant Peach dream is difficult to find on the web these days. Apparently I'm not the only one who found this dream to be a smoking gun so Ernie deleted the evidence?!!!

    Don't forget the prophecy that Ernie and Doug Batchelor would be working together... that didn't happen at all. When this was mentioned in his dream, it was slated to happen in a few months, it's been years!

    Can we say False prophecy here? If so, Ernie can't be trusted. DANGER, STAY AWAY!!!

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  5. You're sold but listen to the arguments in favor of Ernie's dreams.  It's okay that Doug and Ernie are not working together because Doug messed up.  It would have happened but Doug blew it.

    Okay then did God know that Doug and Ernie would never work together?  Did God know Doug would blow it?  Then why even bother tell Ernie that Doug would vouch for him and help his ministry?  At best this was wishful thinking on Ernie's part, and at worst Satan working through Ernie to take down Amazing Facts once Ernie's falsehood was exposed!!!

    Did God know what was going to happen at the GC?  Did anything at the GC conference change because of Ernie's dream?  No way.  So  once again we're asked to believe that God changed His mind even though God knows all, and clearly the trajectory of the Adventist church hasn't changed since.

    When God told Jonah to warn the people of Nineveh He gave specifics, what would happen, what was expected etc.  When the people repented and did was God specifically asked them to do he spared them.

    What were the specifics that Ernie said needed to happen at the GC in order for God to spare the S.D.A. Leadership?  What were the conditions to avert destruction?  I could find nothing concrete, and there was no concrete action taken at the GC that would suggest they fulfilled the repentance needed to avert destruction.

    If you read almost all of Ernie's dreams they are very nebulous, no specifics.  Basically any natural disaster, which we already know happen and will continue to happen, could be slated as a fulfillment.  Thick black liquid.. what is that?  As June is a short month... what is that?

    Lay off the cool-aid and seriously think about this.  Don't be deceived any longer!!!

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  6. If what you propose is correct, then how much of Revelation is optional?  Could man or Satan throw a wrench in what God revealed to John so things would happen differently than God said?  

    You do realize that what you're proposing is what Satanists believe.  That when Jesus comes back he will be unable to take this world and will have to allow Satan and his followers to live here.  They basically believe that, like you propose, man and fallen angels can throw wrenches into God's plan thus altering what God said would happen in Revelation. I sure hope you don't really believe this!

    Either God is all powerful or He is not.  Either God is all knowing of He is not.  There is no monkey wrench that ANYONE could throw in that God does not foresee.  When God speaks it happens!!!

    I'm also struck by how simple salvation is.  We humans like to complicate it, throw our cultural norms at it, and demand others to follow our view of it.  Yet Jesus said that unless we become as little children, in our faith and understanding of God, we're not going to ever understand it or make it to heaven!

    Your multiple page deep philosophical examination of Ernie's dreams make it clear that his dreams do not follow a clear simple 'thus saith the Lord'.  To make elements of them even remotely plausible we're expected to analyze them based on a huge spiritual test, throw in a little of man messing up God's plans, and ignore the blatant failings because they work on other deep spiritual plains.  I'm sorry but all the explaining in the world , 1000 or 5000 words, doesn't make it all better.  False is false, and the God I serve doesn't make mistakes in prophecy... Not ever.  In fact He couldn't because if He says it... IT HAPPENS!!!

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  7. Wow, very off topic in regards to Ernie!  I note that not one of this issues I brought up, in regards to Ernie's dreams, were addressed so there is no disagreement there?

    As for God needing a group of people to be ready in order for Him to come I think you don't understand the power of God.  How about 'In the Fullness of Time'... Hmm, I guess there is no such thing.  Or how about the fact that God could cause the stones to cry out if needed.

    The Jewish leaders were also under the impression that they needed to have a group of people perfectly keeping the commands of God, if just for one day, then salvation would arrive.  They were very learned, had the scriptures memorized yet their hearts were not right with God despite this dedication to every detail.

    It's clear that there is no reasonable argument, even with mind blowing proof, that will convince you that Ernie is false so I bid you fair well and good luck!  My only hope is that others reading this discourse will at least not be deceived by Ernie any longer!!!

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  8. I'm going to post this quote on it's own comment because I feel it is really practical specifically for Ernie's dreams.

    “The truths most plainly revealed in the Bible have been involved in doubt and darkness by learned men, who, with a pretense of great wisdom, teach that the Scriptures have a mystical, a secret, spiritual meaning not apparent in the language employed. These men are false teachers. It was to such a class that Jesus declared, “Ye know not the Scriptures, neither the power of God.” [Mark 12:24.] The language of the Bible should be explained according to its obvious meaning,unless a symbol or figure is employed. Christ has given the promise, “If any man will do His will, he shall know of the doctrine.” [John 7:17.] If men would but take the Bible as it reads, if there were no false teachers to mislead and confuse their minds, a work would be accomplished that would make angels glad, and that would bring into the fold of Christ thousands upon thousands who are now wandering in error.”  (Ellen G. White, “Great Controversy”, 1888 edition page 598 par. 3)

    That is why we have the Bible that God has preserved throughout the ages.  We can trust what it says, and it alone!  It is simple, straight forward and the only thing we can trust!

     I Corinthains 13:8-13
    Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.  For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.
    But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.  When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.  For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.  And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

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    1. NJK Project left out the rest of the sentence which is telling. The statement goes on to say that '...secret, spiritual meaning not apparent in the language employed." (See above Ellen White quote for the complete thought.) Many of the posts NJK Project has posted here make the case for deep spiritual messages hidden within Ernie's dreams. According to this spirit of prophecy quote this is dangerous and points to confusion and error... In this case the dreams, if they really are to be interpreted this way, as well as the interpretations made by NJK are in error.

      Just like the spiritual leaders in Jesus time it's so easy to make salvation a convoluted mess littered with rules, regulations and false ideas about God. We make salvation about us, and doing the "right things" instead of what God is really looking for, our hearts. God wants a living breathing relationship with us, just like He had with Jesus. ( Having the mind of Christ in us... Like Paul refers too.) We can never obtain this by any level of effort on our part. The only thing we really can do is choose... Choose to accept God in our lives and to work His perfect will in us. We give up our will and choose God as our master. That is all we have the power to do. Many people, including myself, forget this and try to do the work on our own. This will never work! Let's face it, the Bible says that even Satan believes and trembles, and I'm sure he is well studied, but this has not changed him for one reason. Satan has rejected the relationship and forgiveness he could have had and that God wanted.

      Who is it that causes us both to "will and to do of His good pleasure."? It is God! He gives us the will, and the power to act on His will! Praise the Lord!

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    2. Simmer down Avatarjah, simmer down! It's okay if not everyone sees things your way!

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    3. Ronald, Ronald, Ronald... Hang in there buddy, soon Canada will rule the world!

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  9. My family and I attended a meeting where Ernie spoke, and Candace was mentioned as if she was some sort of liaison for heaven. It seemed a lot of decisions were made by her and many instructions were given through her. I found this odd and unscriptual.

    Then the undergarment topic surfaced. The angel told Candace that God loves the form of the woman, and that He wanted it to be shown. Bras were chains and they needed to be removed. Tight see through tops were to be worn, and the angel told Candace that the tighter the top the more faith you have. The women were instructed to wear this around non-Adventist, because a stranger would have no reason to stop you and open conversation; church members would more than likely stare. This was presented to us all as the word of God by the angel through Candace.

    Lies, lies, and more lies. I believe that Satan was making his move to destroy souls. The Lord prevented honest, sincere, truth believing, praying people from being further deceived. Ernie lied and it was evident that Candace (the lying spirit) had taken over him. The new van they traveled in was secured by testimony from Candace via email to the Toyota dealership. He had become accustomed to securing favor, items and whatever else he could get through this artful deception. The sky was the limit. He also asked us to send out contributions directly to him; not the ministry.

    Then, Ernie was exposed–the second time when his board traced the Candace-sent emails back to him. Linda Kirk’s loving testimony was the first sound of the trumpet that signaled error and was vital, but was discredited by another hoax–the Great Commission Council. We are instructed by the word of God to test the spirits (1John 4:1), not dodge them. Truth can stand up to any investigation, but Ernie failed the exam because he was not telling the truth. His life was unsanctified and yet he was honored of God and shown the wonders of heaven? God showed His servant about this type of setup.

    Ellen Whites states, “If there were no other evidence of the real character of spiritualism, it should be enough for the Christian that the spirits make no difference between righteousness and sin, between the noblest and purest of the apostles of Christ and the most corrupt of the servants of Satan. By representing the basest of men as in heaven, and highly exalted there, Satan says to the world: “No matter how wicked you are; no matter whether you believe or disbelieve God and the Bible. Live as you please; heaven is your home.” GC 556.

    Hence, I believe the dreams were fabricated. Ernie made a statement at the meeting that added to this suspicion, he said “People are always trying to find fault with the dreams. . .like the scene with the saints all lined up heading towards the guillotine singing all to Jesus I surrender, that’s Rev 20:4!” It’s as if he selected a scripture from the Word and then wrote a sentence concerning what is said in the verse.

    The Lord allowed all these events to occur, and will use them for our good. God forgives and so does His sanctified followers. We forgive because of His mercy and love towards us. We forgive Ernie and love him with the love that the Holy Spirit has shed abroad in our hearts by faith.

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  10. So far what I have gathered from this thread is that if you fall for the likes of Ernie Knoll several things might happen.

    - Loss of sense of humour. Without humour life just might as well not exist.

    - Developing a holier than thou attitude. We all like to be right, but if being convinced that one is right all the time certainly removes a lot of challenge in life. With out challenge life just might as well not exist.

    - Lack of need to show respect. Without respect life might as well not exist.

    - Not feeling the need to explain your point in a way people can understand. As in every single person should understand it exactly as stated. With out understand and patience life might as well not exist.

    I would like to suggest these following virtues to the followers of Mr. Knoll,

    Industriousness - Be productively engaged in life. Avoid laziness. Strive to accomplish good things.

    Justice - Let equity and fairness be your hallmark. Treat others in accordance with what they deserve, and give each person a chance to show his or her best.

    Courage - Fear is natural, but it can be overcome. Train yourself to do the things you fear, both physically and morally.

    Generosity - An open hand and an open heart bring happiness to you and to others. The miserly are never happy.

    Hospitality - In ancient times, travelers were greeted with food, drink, and a warm place by the fire. See that your guests never want.

    Moderation - Enjoy all good things, but do not overindulge. No one admires a glutton or a person who cannot control his or her appetites.

    Community - Cooperate with kin and friends, do your fair share, and remember your responsibilities to others.

    Individuality - Although we belong to a community, we are also individuals with distinct personalities and clearly-defined rights. Respect the individuality of others, and insist on the same in return.

    Truth - Be honest and straightforward in all your dealings. Avoid deceit and deception.

    Steadfastness - Learn to persist, to endure in the face of adversity without discouragement. Do not be blown about by every changing wind.

    Loyalty - Be steadfast in your commitment to others and to yourself. Have a true heart.

    Wisdom - Learn from your experiences. Grow in the understanding of the world, and of the human heart. Comprehend as much of the universe as you can in the years available to you.


    Following these 9 simple rules will get you a lot more listeners.

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  11. NJK is full of hot air! What a joker. I hope he's just toying with everyone here as his comments seem laughable!

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  12. Stop the Presses, Ernie has a new dream (well, about a month old now) and this time the whole SDA church organization and other outreach ministries associated with it are to be burned with fire, people and all! Interestingly enough the fire used is the same fire of Sodom and Gomorrah, which I thought was a type of the final cleansing of the earth when the Heavenly City comes to earth and the final cleansing takes place... but I digress. I guess the judgment comes early for the SDA church, even before the CLOSE OF PROBATION!

    The SDA's must have really upset God here because Jesus was willing to SAVE THE WHOLE CITY of Sodom and Gomorrah if just ten righteous people could be found there. No such luck GC, It Is Written, Amazing Facts, etc. etc. I guess there must not be ten righteous people in the lot of them. (I also note Ernie did not beg for God to spare these institutions either... interesting!?)

    Also note worthy is that God saved Lot, even though he delayed, but in Ernie's latest dream NO ONE is saved from the burning buildings. Men, Woman, Children... they all must go, up in FLAMES that is!

    If you had any doubts about Ernie, just read "FINAL EVENTS AND THE FIRST SUPPER". Then think logically about what good it would do the cause of God to destroy the ministries that are probably the closest to His idea on earth. (They all have problems, the church has problems, nobody here on earth is perfect but this dream is a window into what SATAN would like to see happen to the SDA church for SURE!!!) If God is really behind this punishment, and against the Jesuits in the SDA organization, wouldn't He also smite the Jesuits in the Catholic organization itself at the same time? Jesuits come from the Catholic organization right?

    Note the lack of details on time or specifics other than those that contradict EG White and Revelation on what happens at the end of the world too. I also think it's interesting that Ernie's angel doesn't know geometry either because Doug Bachelor and Ernie are on Parallel paths that will intersect! :) Good luck with that one!

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  13. And there are no deceived people in the SDA church God is trying to reach!? How about all those poor souls joining the S.D.A. church who know nothing of the corruption in the church you speak of? Why would they not get every chance to learn the truth just like people of other religions who are off base?

    And if the S.D.A. church is all wrong, who has it right? Who is left to give the final message and be the final witness to the world. We're not there yet, that time has not yet come. The Bible makes it clear that the lines will be drawn and everyone left alive, on earth, will have a clear decision to make either for the commands of God or for the commands of Man. That hasn't happened yet either.

    Ernie is a mess... and I love your superior attitude and condescending tone. A master of confusion and circular reasoning you are!

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  14. You still didn't answer the question. If S.D.As have it half right, who has it 100% right? Name the organization please. Stop the nonsensical spin and keep it simple. Jesus is coming back for a pure church, so there is one somewhere. NAME IT!

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    1. -Ohhh... I didn’t think that that comment was nothing more than a self-assured, (0 vs. 100%) hyperbolic & (thus) rhetorical claim of yours.

      -By the way, my (falsely so-called) “spins” are never neither mindless, pointless, nor nonsensical, but rather subtle redirections to where the fuller truth can be found...

      -Explicitly here saying so myself, I clearly see that my “NJK Project” is working towards incontrovertibly/necessarily preparing that ‘pure bride of Christ’ which is the Church Triumphant (EV 707.1) and a representative New Jerusalem (Rev 19:8-9, 21:9; cf. Rev 3:12). See the (currently) 68 detailing thesis substantiations on that Project’s blog.

      -I am sure that it would be “convenient” for you to discuss that NJK Project on this blog, but as this is a blog post which discusses Ernie Knoll, I recommend posting any follow up comment on my own blog, and pertinently and substantively so, by addressing specific issues with which you may disagree with.

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  15. You still didn't answer the question. This leads me to believe either you don't really know, or you are yet another voice of confusion... much like ERNIE!

    Prove how intellectually superior you are and tell me which church or organization has it right. Clearly you state the S.D.A. church is wrong (and you agree with Ernie that it will be destroyed before the general close of probation and before Christ comes back). It seems disingenuous not to offer a solution to the problems you have voiced at great length.

    Help us "Biblically/Spiritually asinine & simpleton approach" people out here man! (NJV quote)

    P.S. I note that you pulled all of your previous posts that were VERY OFF the Ernie topic before you posted this statement. (NJK QUOTE "-I am sure that it would be “convenient” for you to discuss that NJK Project on this blog, but as this is a blog post which discusses Ernie Knoll, I recommend posting any follow up comment on my own blog, and pertinently and substantively so, by addressing specific issues with which you may disagree with." END QUOTE) Funny that you were the first one to go WAY OFF TOPIC on this Forum, now you're trying to redirect others to YOUR forum. You are very WHITE WASHED indeed!

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    1. Okay, now you are (I hope) “playing” dumb and/or hiding your head in the sand!! What part of my: ‘NJK Project organization’ answer given above don’t you really/actually understand???? That’s being “asinine” by definition. You want an intelligent conversation, then, seriously, start by, at least, acting like you are. If those answers are still “confusing” you, then clearly you are some ‘Babylonian intoxicating substance’ (Rev 17:2ff). As ancient Israel would testify, you don’t have to be “Babylon” to actually be “in Babylon”.

      You now or also want a ‘specific “Church”’... see also in my blog...it’s posted there, in its due contextualization.

      I had no idea what you were accusing me of in you “pulling posts claims until I check the posts above and saw that all of my prior posts were gone... well news to you, I did not delete them, (I have no reason), this blog’s owner did. So get your facts straight before accusing me. And of course, they leave all of the one-sided, falsely accusatory comments against me...so LEGAL NOTICE: that constitutes legally actionable defamation/slander/libel and will be fully prosecuted as such! And you won’t be able to hide behind your spiritual ignorance.

      Like I said, you can continue this conversation on my own blog...and since I have been making copies of this discussion here for just this expected/typical moronic deleting reason, (never fails with you SDAs) I will be reposting the entire original conversation on my website. See my Testing the Spirit blog post, at the end of the Ernie Knoll section. In fact I won’t be wasting my time and posting on this blog after this answer here and any follow up comment that is made against me will instead be answered on that blog post.

      -By the way, this is all “typical”, because you all SDAs can’t accept that God is judging you (Isa 6:8-13|Ezek 14:1-8, LDE 59-61; etc) By the way, Ernie believes his dreams will be literally fulfilled, -my light says that they will only be spiritually applicably fulfilled.

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  16. Legal Notice: The board owner can do whatever he or she likes with unsolicited comments you post. (You're not in Canada anymore friend!)

    The fact that you are backing up your posts tells me others are also finding your posts worthy of deletion on other boards. I'm thinking this might be a sign you should rethink your attack plan!

    But I digress. You keep dodging the original question. If S.D.As have it half right, who has it 100% right?

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    2. Anonymous: “Legal Notice: The board owner can do whatever he or she likes with unsolicited comments you post. (You're not in Canada anymore friend!)”

      By the way, as it clearly is neither safe to (glossingly) assume at all that you know what you are talking about, and/or have made a sensical/rational/logical/intelligent comment: in response to your vacuous: “not in Canada anymore friend” Legal Notice above, blog hosters located in Canada also have the right to, (at their own responsibility), delete any comment from their posts. It is not only something that can ‘“legally” be done in the U.S.’ (LOL)!!...

      “You’re not in Kansas anymore!!” or is that actually “Wonderland”!

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    3. ...in fact I seriously do recommend you using the “fake” usernames “Dorothy” or “Alice” so as to not inherently/defaulty effect unmerited surface aspersions on anyone else who may which to post anonymously...

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  17. NJK said: " What part of my: ‘NJK Project organization’ answer given above don’t you really/actually understand???? That’s being “asinine” by definition."

    Okay, let's break this down. I asked which church, if not S.D.A., is the true last day church. The only thing close to an answer you gave was "church triumphant" but that isn't a specific church that I can look up in the phone book is it? That describes the church that is made pure and has members alive when Jesus returns. So which church WILL become the Church Triumphant? This is a fair question which was never answered! I fail to see how that makes me "asinine by definition".

    NJK said: "You want an intelligent conversation, then, seriously, start by, at least, acting like you are. If those answers are still “confusing” you, then clearly you are some ‘Babylonian intoxicating substance’ (Rev 17:2ff). As ancient Israel would testify, you don’t have to be “Babylon” to actually be “in Babylon”.

    Now you are resorting to name calling along with calling into question my intelligence. Good start for getting an idea across to someone you do not even know.

    NJK said: "You now or also want a ‘specific “Church”’... see also in my blog...it’s posted there, in its due contextualization."

    Oops, no link. That will be fun to try and find...

    NJK said: "I had no idea what you were accusing me of in you “pulling posts claims until I check the posts above and saw that all of my prior posts were gone... well news to you, I did not delete them, (I have no reason), this blog’s owner did. So get your facts straight before accusing me. And of course, they leave all of the one-sided, falsely accusatory comments against me...so"

    Yes, and I would be able to fact check this. And there is no way you could have removed your own posts and then lied about it to make me, and the blog host, look bad... And I would be able to fact check this too right!?

    NJK said: "LEGAL NOTICE: that constitutes legally actionable defamation/slander/libel and will be fully prosecuted as such! And you won’t be able to hide behind your spiritual ignorance."

    Great, now you've resorted to legal threats. If you can't convince me sue 'me! That's another great way not to win friends and influence people! Oh, and I'm still stupid and hiding behind it!

    NJK said: "Like I said, you can continue this conversation on my own blog.."

    Wait, so you were just threatening legal action and now you want to continue a conversation on your blog? Which is it? Do you want to press charges or do you want to talk it over? I'm so confused!

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      -A legal notice is not a legal threat...Try to understand and believe, that if you can. But calling it “threats” makes you seem so victimized. LOL still just fooling yourself. I don’t need the company/association of, especially spiritually moronic people. Too much of a head ache, and time wasting, (as now), for starters. (See 1 SM 109-111 for more reasons).

      Quoting you: “Oh, and I'm still stupid and hiding behind it!” - Finally you got something right, but of course you probably can’t realize this or else you would know how moronic and spiritually void this statement is. If you think that God’s work requires grovelling at the feet of deliberately/indifferently ignorant people, then you, at the very least, need to read your Bible and the SOP. Focus on the history of God’s dealings with His Israel, including in NT Israel (especially the history of Christian Church) , and then read what the SOP says about the Shaking.

      -Clearly you don’t understand the actionable legal issues, so at the very least, address what concerns you. Secondly I know what is written on my blog, so if you want to know or discuss it, then join me there. Obviously this blog here only wants comments which paint Ernie Knoll as a liar and false prophets. And if you make statements which are legal slanderous/libellous on my blog then I’ll have the power to properly deal with them, if they are actually even posted to begin with...only substantially sound/valid/sincere comments are judiciously accepted there. So don’t be mindlessly/air-headedly confusing/conflating lawfully slanderous and libellous comments/actions with valid ones. There is not at all a “press charges” vs. discuss valid questions issue here. That’s again just you not understanding basic and straightforward things, So learn the key difference if you can....you’ll sound/seem intelligence instead of an, at best, pompous vexatious, (logically and spiritually) “confused” to boot, hot+air head!!!

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  18. NJK said: ".and since I have been making copies of this discussion here for just this expected/typical moronic deleting reason, (never fails with you SDAs)"

    Okay so now the blog host is a moron (along with all S.D.As). Any questions as to why NJK might have a small, but apparently expected, problem with posts disappearing?

    NJK said: "I will be reposting the entire original conversation on my website. See my Testing the Spirit blog post, at the end of the Ernie Knoll section."

    I'll put that on my must read list! I hope you include this post too! No abridging!!!

    NJK said: "In fact I won’t be wasting my time and posting on this blog after this answer here and any follow up comment that is made against me will instead be answered on that blog post."

    Packing up the toys so soon? If ever I feel the need for a little abuse I will be sure to drop in on your blog. I just never tire of being called stupid and a spiritual midget. I'll be right over to post!

    NJK said: "-By the way, this is all “typical”, because you all SDAs can’t accept that God is judging you (Isa 6:8-13|Ezek 14:1-8, LDE 59-61; etc)"

    All S.D.As can't except that God is judging them... Really? Isn't that the whole point, and significance, of the heavenly Sanctuary and what the S.D.A church was founded on after the great disappointment?

    So why are you even bothering NJK? If ALL S.D.As are lost, as you say, then wipe the dust off your feet and move on! Have you checked out any of the Catholic blogs. There has to be some low hanging fruit there!

    NJK said: "By the way, Ernie believes his dreams will be literally fulfilled, -my light says that they will only be spiritually applicably fulfilled."

    Okay so we've come full circle and Ernie is wrong about his dream interpretation! We finally agree, Ernie is wrong!

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  19. P.S. The above posts are complete NJK quotes so the moderator can feel free to Legally keep the above two posts even if further NJK deletions are made! Just F.Y.I :)

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    1. So only what you quote from my comment is worthy of remaining posted!???... How comically conceded, particularly as that actually makes no logical/rational sense at all, moreover by claiming there is a “legal” implication here. LOL!!..Need I say it again...you are definitely clinically (.......)!!! All the proof is here for any sane person to see....or, for earlier discussions, do see the original posts on my blog post’s reposting.

      -BTW Don’t you have to go to sleep to go to Church soon...your utter senselessness and confusion here may accentuated by physical drowsy...or it just may not even matter at all...

      And don’t worry I have a copy...

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  20. “Education: the path from cocky ignorance to miserable uncertainty.”
    -Mark Twain

    " Go to heaven for the climate and hell for the company."
    -Mark Twain

    "Heaven is by favor; if it were by merit your dog would go in and you would stay out. Of all the creatures ever made man is the most detestable. Of the entire brood, he is the only one that possesses malice. He is the only creature that inflicts pain for sport, knowing it to be pain."
    -Mark Twain



    If heaven will be full of people like you NJK, I will gladly not go!

    NJK said: "In fact I won’t be wasting my time and posting on this blog after this answer here and any follow up comment that is made against me will instead be answered on that blog post."

    Now you have given proof that you are a liar because you have continued to post massive new posts, and waste considerable time doing so! Be a man of your word NJK!

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    1. NJK said:"...and you all could easily read those answers to your asinine comments and (hopefully) realize how moronic and infantile your mentality is.,,,but, evidently, that’s all like trying to discuss the Bible with someone who believes Mark Twain is inspired...."

      Oh, you mean like trying to discuss the Bible with someone who believes Ernie Knoll is inspired!

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    2. Hello??!! -Already answered that comment/claim of yours. Repeating it doesn’t change that fact, (or only in your spiritually-devoid world would it), so deal with it.

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  21. Oh, and to hit you with some knowledge... NJK isn't a person so it's going to be hard to sue for defamation! Besides, no one was even talking about what a horrible idea it would be to have floating cities in the ocean! (Oops I just did.)

    NJK said: "-Of course you would be able to fact check who deleted those blog post...by first asking me...but I guess your pride also won’t let you do that. You rather want to claim/believe that I am going to lie, then why are you whining to me now???! As always, your preferred foot-in-mouth problem not mine."

    Talk about a whining. That is about all your posts are. And why are you posting here again? You said you were not going to!

    NJK said: "So only what you quote from my comment is worthy of remaining posted!???... How comically conceded, particularly as that actually makes no logical/rational sense at all, moreover by claiming there is a “legal” implication here. LOL!!..Need I say it again...you are definitely clinically (.......)!!! All the proof is here for any sane person to see...."

    What was that you said about ME Whining!?

    NJK said: "-BTW Don’t you have to go to sleep to go to Church soon...your utter senselessness and confusion here may accentuated by physical drowsy...or it just may not even matter at all..."

    This coming from you, who posted at 4:28a.m. You forgot that automatons don't need sleep!

    NJK said "And don’t worry I have a copy..."

    If everything I'm posting is such intellectual rubbish, why keep it? I had no idea I meant so much to you!

    NJK said "Clearly you don’t understand the actionable legal issues, so at the very least, address what concerns you... Obviously this blog here only wants comments which paint Ernie Knoll as a liar and false prophets. And if you make statements which are legal slanderous/libellous on my blog then I’ll have the power to properly deal with them."

    So your trying to bate me to your blog so you can sue me. Great! I wonder why more people don't post there?

    NJK said: "So don’t be mindlessly/air-headedly confusing/conflating lawfully slanderous and libellous comments/actions with valid ones. There is not at all a “press charges” vs. discuss valid questions issue here. That’s again just you not understanding basic and straightforward things, So learn the key difference if you can....you’ll sound/seem intelligence instead of an, at best, pompous vexatious, (logically and spiritually) “confused” to boot, hot+air head!!!"

    So sounding intelligent is more important than being intelligent... I'm afraid your posts prove you have mastered neither!

    NJK said: "Not “Packing up the toys so soon.” Just have more important things to spend time on...and don’t worry, like I said above any moronic, stupid, non-factual and/or spiritually inane comments that you would try to make in my blog discussions just won’t get pass the pre-posting moderating. I would however greatly appreciate sparing me the time of even having to read or evaluate/ponder them..."

    So you really don't want a discussion as you'll screen everything and post only what you like. Nice open forum there! And clearly you do have more pressing things to do. Those cities will not build themselves!

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    1. -You could only which that the NJK Project was merely a person, because as a project your public slanderous and false remarks are more significant. And your latest comment here about floating cities could just as easily be dismissed as your ignorance...yet they are indeed still collectively actionable, demonstrating your wanton disregard of posted facts so that you could make disparaging slanderous and libellous remarks. Suit yourself and do also ‘smack’ yourself with some basic common sense if you can...it will do you some face saving good.

      -(Read my above response as to what I said I would do, etc)

      -Read my prior comment to see what I had said about you and whining...other than that I have no clue what sense you are trying to confect here. Try understanding the applied “complaining” notion of “whining”...I know I am not at all “complaining” to you... ‘speaking with tears in my words’...perhaps, but only humanly/naturally/characterly so....(I have got to fully trust God and resolutely fulfill my own calling/mandate better (cf. Acts 13:46 vs. Rom 11:4|Rev 11:13) and just let you all run head long into that Amos 7:7-8 “adamant wall”)...I mean Ernie Knoll is actually there to help/“enlighten” you all.

      -Well I know my own schedule, and also that it does not include attending an SDA Church today... what’s your reason?? Planned to miss Sabbath School??? or doze off during the sermon or better yet have coffee and/or Coca-Cola for breakfast....or as you comment implies, maybe you are indeed an automaton, which explains all of the “doesn’t-compute-type” replies you’ve been cranking out. You should at least wait until Artificial intelligence become more developed...

      -I am not “collecting your rubbish” I already stated why I make these copies...find it, read it and accept it...if your pride will let you...

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      -Not ‘“baiting” you to my blog’, and it is not my fault if you can’t help but be moronic and think you are above the law in trying to paint others with you stupidity, as if that disculpated you...yeah only if your are deemed judicially unfit to be tried as a sane person. And I actually have not had any such legal issues/problems problem with people posting on my blog because the clear warning that senseless and non-substantiated comments will not be posted naturally keep the morons at bay and away. (And FYI. 93.2% of comments submitted to my blog have been posted and the ones which have not, actually did not involve moronic or slanderous issues but just issues of non-substantiated claims, including several comment which, pertinently enough, would have been slanderous to others if I had allowed them to be posted....I requested some documentation and since none was given, the comments were not posted...Now that how you responsibly operate a blog...if getting at the concrete truth is actually your main concern.

      -I’m afraid you just can’t recognize, nor understand, intelligence....especially when it is combined with Biblical Spirituality...

      -Self-evident, documented and/or demonstrable Truth is what is allowed to be posted on my forum...Saves much on ensuing discussions.... Like I have said, making a documented and future-“referenciable” example out of you for others who may (especially unwittingly) have similar moronic dispositions as you, (though your case has proven to be quite extreme/“special/exceptional”), is a time saving measure for me, and does allow me to not have to expend this effort later again, while indeed working towards establishing the NJK Project. Perhaps these others are more humble and repentant and are not too prideful to embrace the sense of shame at their, especially Spiritual deficiency and “repugnant Lukewarmness”. Only the full on reprobate SDA stiffneckly ‘refuse to know any shame...’ Never ends well for such people...Just ask Ernie Knoll...He’s your dedicated best hope for seeing any light here (Ezek 14:1-8),,,I know I have no such burden/mandate at all...quite to the contrary (Isa 6:8-13)!!

      BTW, if current plans work out, these Floating Cities will much more than less “build themselves”...e.g., welcome to the FRP & advanced robotics, age.

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  22. NJK said: "BTW, if current plans work out, these Floating Cities will much more than less “build themselves”...e.g., welcome to the FRP & advanced robotics, age."

    Sure, and they pay for themselves too! (And have time to sue for liable at the same time. What a great time we live in.)

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    1. Ohhh don’t worry about the project’s financing...Just more of your pompous ignorance speaking...Especially you won’t be able to begin to contribute to the plans of securing it... In fact, you surely would not be admitted in the building (1SM 109-111). So try another hostage plot. You, and the likes of you, are to me certainly dispensable... And who needs ‘personal time’ when I’ll then have the money to hire attorneys.

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  23. NJK said:"...But the actual reason why I am posting here, and not straightly on my own blog, like I actually said I that I would (did read/understand that specification?!!), is that it actually takes less time and effort to do so here...and you all could easily read those answers to your asinine comments and (hopefully) realize how moronic and infantile your mentality is.,,,but, evidently, that’s all like trying to discuss the Bible with someone who believes Mark Twain is inspired...."

    Oh, you mean like trying to discuss the Bible with someone who believes Ernie Knoll is inspired!

    And none of this changes the fact that you didn't keep your word when you said you were done posting here. I guess that follows though because Ernie also said he wasn't inspired, then changed his mind and was again... Oh and God changed His mind too and didn't destroy the Atlanta GC. Makes perfect sense now! You and Ernie have a lot in common!

    I suppose later we'll find out that the floating cities were "figurative" and not meant to be taken literally. And you want to be taken seriously? And Ernie wants to be taken seriously?

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    1. Ernie Knoll's angels are a mere reflection of the ignorance of his own mind. Here's the proof:

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      Ernie Knoll wrote:LOVE AND REBUKE
      April 12, 2008
      By Ernie Knoll

      "Over the last couple months, I have received emails stating that what my angel, the Herald, has been telling me is wrong. I have received counsel that I should ignore what the Herald says and that I should ask for God to send His angels to escort me to safety. I was counseled to remove the website. I have been told the Herald is an angel of Satan.

      Several counseled me to “test the spirits.” I was counseled to follow 1 John 4:1-3, which says:

      “Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.”

      Knowing that an angel of Satan can only answer that Jesus did not come in the flesh, if the Herald stated this, it would prove that he is an agent of Satan and is trying to deceive many. However, if the Herald answered that Jesus did come in the flesh, then that would mean I am not being deceived. With these verses in mind, I invited some to join me in prayer that if the Father would send another dream that I would be allowed to ask this question of the Herald. This morning I was given the following dream.

      In my dream, I had decided to hike among the ferns and redwood trees in the quiet of a forest. I walk along contemplating and praying that God will allow me an answer to the problems that have come about from the “Stand Fast” dream. I tell the Father that much opposition has arisen. As I walk along, I feel a closeness, as if Jesus is walking next to me. Yet I am all alone. As I continue on, I enjoy the odor of the redwoods and notice how I can see my breath from the cool moisture. Everything is a peaceful quiet. I now see a large tree limb lying across the path. I work on dragging this tree limb out of the path so that others walking along will not have this obstacle in their way. I continue on, thanking God for a beautiful place to walk and how I look forward to our walks together in the forests of heaven.

      Suddenly I see three angels slowly descend in front of me. The first angel says, “Fear not as we have been sent by the Father which is in heaven.” The second angel says, “We come proclaiming Philippians 2:5-11.” The third angel recites:

      “Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.”

      I have a feeling of utter adulation, a feeling of such excitement. I look for words but can only exclaim, “Praise Jesus, thank you Father.”
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      To complete the proof, just ask the pope if he believes that Jesus Christ came in the flesh! :)

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    2. Interesting reposting of this comment from this other forum. Since my comments are less likely to be (wholesalely/whimsically) deleted in that other forum, I have answered that post there.

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  24. NJK said: "-Well I know my own schedule, and also that it does not include attending an SDA Church today... what’s your reason?? Planned to miss Sabbath School??? or doze off during the sermon or better yet have coffee and/or Coca-Cola for breakfast...."

    And any of this is your business because? (Plus if you REALLY believe Ernie you would know that there is no point for me to go as the services are filled with Satan and evil angels.)

    NJK said: "or as you comment implies, maybe you are indeed an automaton, which explains all of the “doesn’t-compute-type” replies you’ve been cranking out. You should at least wait until Artificial intelligence become more developed..."

    Uh, you mean YOU should wait until Artificial intelligence "become" more developed to continue posting here. Please, take your own advice... And do what you gave your word you would do... not post here any longer!

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    1. -Its pertinent to me because you are adamantly claiming that ‘SDAs have it 100% right’...
      Yet, again another asinine comment: The actual issue depends on if you believe your prophet Ernie Knoll. And since I do believe Ernie Knoll...do keep attending that ‘synagogue of Satan’.

      -No...seems clear to me that you were calling yourself an “automaton”... and, if you think its actually applicable, FRP manufacturing robots don’t need to operate on artificial intelligence...and whatever such technology has longed been developed by today for them is more than adequate.

      -I’ll post however I have planned to and I’ll stop posting, wherever I choose, when you stop addressing comments to me. [Based on that tunnel-vision|narrow considering of yours, I suppose you think that God is a liar too (Jer 18:1-10)] And if you don’t want me to post here about my project, then just don’t make comments on it...It is as simple as that... Contrary to what excuse you want/need to fabricate and believe, the prophecies of Ernie Knoll to you darnel SDAs have nothing to do with my Project...so it would behoove yo to focus your energies on discussing Knoll.

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    2. NJK Said: "-Its pertinent to me because you are adamantly claiming that ‘SDAs have it 100% right’...
      Yet, again another asinine comment: The actual issue depends on if you believe your prophet Ernie Knoll. And since I do believe Ernie Knoll...do keep attending that ‘synagogue of Satan’."

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      I never said S.D.A.s have it 100% right. In fact, here is my quote, on this very forum, from January 15, 2013 at 3:16 PM:
      I said: "If you had any doubts about Ernie, just read "FINAL EVENTS AND THE FIRST SUPPER". Then think logically about what good it would do the cause of God to destroy the ministries that are probably the closest to His idea on earth. (They all have problems, the church has problems, nobody here on earth is perfect but this dream is a window into what SATAN would like to see happen to the SDA church for SURE!!!) If God is really behind this punishment, and against the Jesuits in the SDA organization, wouldn't He also smite the Jesuits in the Catholic organization itself at the same time? Jesuits come from the Catholic organization right?"

      So NJK, what part of my statement claims S.D.A.s have it 100% right? Are you even reading the posts?

      From your clearly smug and self-righteous attitude, that comes across here, it seems you think you can read minds. Clearly your thoughts betray you! If you go back and read your posts it's fairly clear you don't believe in at least some of the fruits of the spirit... or at least don't believe they apply to you!

      I also note that you still haven't provided a church, that can actually be attended today, that has a better understanding of Biblical truth than the S.D.A church (despite all the problems, like I've said before). You have dodged this question from it's first posting way up at the top of this thread!

      We're all waiting!

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    3. Well I awarely didn’t bother to take any time to fact check if you had made an 100% claim. Seems that claiming non-fact-checked things was perfectly acceptable here..but evidently only when you do it...

      As for reading the posts, I do... the real issue is, as with your comments and questions, do you either logically and/or spiritually understand whatever you may be reading???

      -Don’t need to read minds... what for anyways??? And your expressed words and non-cogent comments/answers speak volumes of your inner processes, particularly in terms of the Spiritual.

      -How tellingly typical...The problem with “your view” of the “fruits of the Spirit” is that you think that they mean I have to be your doormat and slave, and moreover sink to your non-spiritual way of viewing things...read throughout the Bible Church History and the SOP: that has consistently been the defensive refuge of those who are Spiritually deficient (=the attitude of the “moronic” virgin in Matt 25:1-12|COL 405-421)...And it not “smugness” its confidence in what I have studied out in the Bible and SOP... So ‘go get your own oil’!! LOL...you are more prophetic than you know....

      If you want to find this ‘fuller truth Organization/Church’, then heed the answers I have already given. If you think that I do not know the quibbling issue you are trying to harp on with you now explicitly stated “attend” specification, then you have really deceived yourself, to your own loss... I saw you coming ten miles away....but you want to think I am both dumb and unspiritual like you, or at least, should be...So, like a person who refuses to get on a bus to go to Church because he is not seeing the Church in the bus, then...’keep on waiting’. Works well for me as I then won’t have to deal with you at the front door of that edifice (1SM 109-111), i.e., if you can handle it, my own blog. Really do stay away... you’ve long already had your chance and chose to play dumb, so then live with that decision of yours.

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    4. NJK Said: "If you want to find this ‘fuller truth Organization/Church’, then heed the answers I have already given."

      You still haven't 'given' the answer, not once! (Maybe it was deleted, why don't you post it again as I can't find it anywhere!)

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    5. Yeah...Yeah...Please, Keep waving away the bus...PLEASE!!!...You’re beyond help....Just that far gone Spiritually, So by any means, do stay away....You and anyone else who likewise “won’t” get it...That’s the whole “confusing” point!!! Isa 6:8-13....You can’t grasp what is just before your eyes!?? (Isa 29:9-13): So “Mission Accomplished” with you indeed!!! Just accept the fact....You and your ‘stuntedly and retardedly infantile’ disposition are not wanted there! (1 SM 110.1)

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  25. NJK Said: "Yeah...Yeah...Please, Keep waving away the bus...PLEASE!!!...You’re beyond help....Just that far gone Spiritually, So by any means, do stay away....You and anyone else who likewise “won’t” get it...That’s the whole “confusing” point!!! Isa 6:8-13....You can’t grasp what is just before your eyes!?? (Isa 29:9-13): So “Mission Accomplished” with you indeed!!! Just accept the fact....You and your ‘stuntedly and retardedly infantile’ disposition are not wanted there! (1 SM 110.1)"

    If my 'disposition' is not wanted here, how come your posts are the ones that 'magically' disappear? Once again you fool yourself. But, to quote you NJK, "not my mandate at all" to convince you otherwise.

    Enjoy the Kool-Aid!


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    1. Some more asinine comments...just indeed can’t “help” yourself...

      a) it’s not “here” but “there”
      b) it not “magic” but a blog owner’s feature
      c) you are not the only who suffers from spiritual infantilism
      d) wouldn’t, and didn’t, expect you to understand who the “fool” is here (Pro 26:4-5)
      e) indeed ‘not trying to convince you at all’, just convict you beyond all “reasonable” doubt (Pro 1:22-31)
      f) at least my Kool-Aid isn’t spiked!! Start by laying off your drunkening self-serving and prideful brew of wine.
      g) you really have nothing redeemable with you: Spiritually dense and dunce and logically spasmodic and haywire at best...I would say it equates Isa 29:14 but I have seen no evidence that you have ever been (logically) “wise” or (spiritually) “discerning”....

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  26. NJK Said: "...it would behoove yo to focus your energies on discussing Knoll."

    I agree! ;)

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  27. http://oursword.blogspot.com/2010/04/that-stealthy-old-man.html

    read it, love it, live it

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    1. Read it. Not exegetically impressed by the isolative claim. Will rather live by what the Bible actually fully/pertinently involves! (cf. Matt 4:2-10).

      -BTW “Our Sword” was that the assumed philosophy/basis for the deletion of all of my prior postings???

      Judging even/especially a righteous judgement is never a “pretty” thing, look it up throughout Biblical History (i.e., Bible, Church, SDA History), indeed just asked Jesus, the one who made use of the choice descriptive term of “moronic”, (e.g., Matt 23 & 25:1ff)...and that is because it involves dealing with “darnel” people who have no clue, nor care, how they are treading down God’s Truth! It takes actual Spiritual discernment to see the Light in such cases.

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  28. Ronald, is that you. What is the NJK Project?

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    1. It is impossible to distinguish all of the “anonymous” posters here. Click on my username “NJK Project” here and you’ll go to the NJK Project blog where you’ll find its information website as well as the email address to contact me.

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  29. http://oursword.blogspot.com/2010/04/we-must-follow-light-we-have-fanaticism.html

    again i urge you to display the fruit of the Spirit first and foremost before any attempt is made to go into anything else in the real of theology. otherwise your words are unprofitable, for no one will be drawn to Christ.

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    1. A) You are doing the typical thing of people who care nothing more than about appearances to ignore the full context of things, and not taking into consideration the mindless instigations of the other side. (and of course here you now have for the most part a one-sided conversation.) I see I have followed the principle of the counsel of Jesus in Matt 18:15-18 and when people insist on viewing things as unspiritual people, starting by outrightly ignoring the Bible and SOP, then there is no other option than to treat them as those “Gentiles”. So again, you need to review the issue of such righteous/Biblical dealing in the Bible. Only the full counsel of God’s word on this issue will help you know the Truth and not, as the Devil prefers, half-truths.

      B) It is evident that the controlling Spirit in this blog post is one which thinks that being and sounding nice is a justification for ignoring the Bible and SOP, playing dumb, lying, slandering, ignoring sin in the Church, etc. That is the Spirit of the Devil, so before trying to camouflage this with facades, do first check what actual spirit you are of. The Jewish Leaders in Christ’s day had the same skewed mentality and were unknowingly, and then indifferently, indeed natural imps of Satan. The fact is that all along they were self-servingly worshipping themselves.

      C) The Bible and SOP are clear that there will be “New Light” unto the end, so it is not a matter of blanketly ignoring all claims of New Light but to properly investigate them. See my blog post on that topic.

      It is so telling that you all are so concerned with facades and appearances that you prefer to ignore investigating truth. Being “nice” may influence someone to the Truth, but it will not save/set them free, only the Truth will. So I “urge” you all to be so “infantilely sensitive and impressionable”, to your own detriment, and behave like spiritual mature adult who can tell the difference. (Matt 15:21-28)...otherwise duly effectuating Isa 6:8-13|Matt 13:10-17 is as easy as “child’s play”.

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  30. If you're happy and you know it say NJK. If you're happy and you know it say NJK. If you're happy and you know it then your floating cities will surely show it, if you're happy and you know it say NJK!

    Tsunami anyone?

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    1. Just yet another Spiritually, and logically, infantile/juvenile, uninformed and/or outrightly ignorant brat pompously popping off... Quite “naturally” typical indeed

      Knowing my project inside out, I am quite thrilled about it. What wearies and “leeries” me is the necessary efforts to have to ‘circumvent’ having to deal with such knee-jerk “childish” mentalities and disposition like yours... (=1 SM 109-111!!!) (I guess that what this Spiritual “fly trap” is for after all.)

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  31. So when does construction on the first city begin?

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    1. Hello Tom. Construction on an HC will begin when the set/preferred minimum starting population is reached. See more info at e.g.: HC Population and Construction Plan.

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    2. I love the fact that you keep spewing delusions in public to prove how deluded your mind is. So many people see it that I have no worries about your website that openly ridicules the messages God has given the SDA church through me for the last days. The way you used to support the dreams used to cause me concern because of your hatred for the SDA church, now you have been exposed and I am grateful, thank you Father in the name of Jesus amen.

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    3. ...I just don’t care to have a discussion on this with you, which is pointedly “off-topic” here, and particularly as all you’ll end up doing is your patent vexatious chickening out when faced with facts you either can’t answer or dare not engage...but just for duly clearing up your slanders, here goes:

      -The NJK Project, -which was entirely born/borne out of ‘true/full righteousness’ (=”right-doing” towards all those in, pointedly vital, need) is nothing remotely close to a ‘delusion’. Further Biblical studying have been consistently and increasingly substantiating that it is firmly derived and rooted in the Bible (and necessarily, concealedly corroborated in many parts of the SOP), as God’s “Plan A” End Time plan. Like the OT Covenant, the SDA Church mandate was an accelerated, emergency “Plan B” which SDA’s have not held up their side of it for it to be fulfilled by God, hence now this Plan A. You, and many like you just have preferred to be ignorant and/or indifferent to these clear substantiations and that all is due that you much more prefer your various selfish/self-serving and unrighteous ways. (=EW 266-269)

      -News Flash: Having rightly and faithfully followed the counsel in 1 Thess 5:19-22, I have, and still “support” the visions/dreams/revelations of your which pass the Biblical test of a Divine origin. However I am not Spiritually nor Humanistically blinded to think or believe that everything you may think and claim must surely also come from God. You, pointedly in your prior erroneous Eight King claims, which are well/archivedly documented, have long done a great job of proving that you are quite easily prone to passing off your own ideas as supposedly direct revelations from God. And that indeed is your problem. You are to wrapped up in your egoistical belief to let the Bible or SOP correct or calibrate your claims.

      There is a well establish hierarchy of Divine Revelation before yours to determine if whatever you may claim is from God, and, as I have been telling you, in many cases, your actual revelations, even impressions, in themselves have proven to be genuine, it is your follow up claims and interpretations about them which are skewed and flawed by your lack of Biblical scholasticism. (And Ernie Knoll, among other present Ezek 14:1-9 SDA half-prophets are likewise guilty of the same deficiency. As the Bible copiously attests, having a prophetic dream and interpreting it are typically two distinct giftings. (cf. 1SM 25.4)

      -I also recommend that you stop invoking the name of God/Jesus for your own backlashing and erroneous claims. It is quite blasphemous as it indeed is easily demonstrable that much of what you say and think has just not originated from the “Heavenly Intelligence”....When you realize all of this, particularly with your latest unexegetical and spurious ‘set, 11th hour, Latter Rain time and event claim’, (however you now do know how to preemptingly include disculpating weasel caveats...-as if God Himself would also be “unsure” LOL...), you then will not spend an entire day crying your eyes out as with your Pope Benedict/JP II claims, but at least a whole week!!!...and likewise, it will all be out of more wounded pride...

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  32. NJK Project, your website seems to be down. I could not find any information about the status of your project or the project itself, other than the comments made here about it. Just F.Y.I.

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    1. Thanks for the notice. I have been having an issue with a web directory service I am using. It keeps immediately redirecting traffic to the site’s to their website!?! Working on resolving it.

      Direct access to any of the 200+ pages on the website does not have this issue.
      E.g., Its (secondary) Language Selection page and its Synopsis page.

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  33. We need to pray for Ernie Knoll and his followers. A friend presented his dreams to us and after prayer and careful study, we found several of them to be unbiblical and rejected them. We informed our friend of our findings. He later met Ernie personally and spent some time with him. He then wrote to us and confirmed to us that he was wrong and now believes that Ernie Knoll is a false prophet. After spending time with him, he was convinced that he had been deceived about Ernie's dreams and that Ernie himself was also deceived. He needs our prayers.

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  34. My name is James Tierney, one of the people claiming to have dreams and visions from God that NJK Project tested on his website and found I had received messages from God. He says I misinterpreted them because they don't fit with his extra Sabbatical ideas.
    I contacted Ernie Knoll in 2007 wanting test the Spirit of his dreams. I have had many Godly visions and dreams that have been fulfilled, and I shared these dreams with Ernie to see what he thought about them. I wanted to see his response. He said he had read them excitedly, and then never responded to me again.
    One of these dreams I sent him was about cars being abandoned in the middle of highway 35w. In the highway, where there were thousands of abandoned cars, there is a bridge. A month after having this dream that bridge collapsed on August 1st 2007, (the day I opened my smoothie shop) I shared this with Ernie that day in an email and a couple of weeks later I found a new dream from Ernie (KEEP GOING August 8, 2007) where he claimed that he was in a car just like I was in my dream, then in his "WATCH, AS I AM COMING!" dream August 14, 2007 he talked about seeing dark spots on peoples garments, just like the vision I had of flying through Jesus and then seeing spots on MY garments. He was stealing the dreams that God had given me that I had just sent him in emails weeks before. I responded by sending him emails demanding to know if he was plagairizing my dreams. No response.
    Then in "THE WORK NOW BEGINS" dream December 14, 2007 he mentions "I now ask the Herald about the origin of a certain individual’s dreams." I am absolutely positive this is a reference to the dreams I had sent him in emails.
    Then in his "STAND FAST" dream of February 5, 2008 he said "I watch as vehicles on highways and interstates crash. The roads that the cars and trucks are traveling on open up into CREVASSES." Just like the bridge of 35w collapsing. And again he says "Cars are parked everywhere. Some are almost brand new and some are very nice sports cars. The keys are still in the ignition and the doors hang open." THIS IS ALMOST VERBATIM OF WHAT I SHARED WITH ERNIE IN THE EMAIL I SENT ABOUT THE Highway 35W DREAM I HAD!!!!
    Right then I knew God was showing me that this man was a fraud and was stealing the words and images of the dreams God had given me, but I was still giving him the benefit of the doubt. He never responded to my requests to answer for his plagiarism. He had stolen the dreams God gave me, so I knew then I had received answer to prayer whether he was lying or not.
    I have hundreds of witnesses to these dreams, but unlike Ernie before being discovered, I have been persecuted to the extreme within the SDA church from the start, and the fact that Satan inspired this man at the same time God was inspiring me has been the most significant thwarting of the influence of the dreams God gave me. I am not discouraged because God inspired me to communicate with Ernie to show His intervention. Mr Knoll was then busted in perfect answer to prayer when I prayed for him to be exposed. God answers my prayers very powerfully.

    I do not seek my own glory but to help others find Christ and be cleansed in the knowledge of the truth. Amen.

    Here is the most powerful vision God has ever given me. http://redheifersbloodysweat.blogspot.com/2011/12/red-heifer.html

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    1. These claim of James Tierney, (who indeed was/is being “tested” (1 Thess 5:19-22|1 John 4:1) here), i.e., his “Eight King View and Pope Francis & Mary”; and his claim, which he further detailed in a follow up email, that: Ernie Knoll stole his revelations, were responded to in the document referenced in the response here (at its pages 92-106 (entry date: August 5, 2013)).

      His Eight King view is shown to still be erroneous due to non-exegetical, as well as non-Spiritual, interpretations and applications, but rather anecdotal and literalistic/superficial ones. And his claim about Ernie was shown to be inconclusive at best, also lacking an more indepth Spiritual consideration. As usual/typical, such false understandings are related to the deficiency mentioned in 1SM 25.4 & TM 116.1.

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    2. The fact that you try to condemn the Seventh Day Adventist Movement in itself is sufficient to prove who truly motivates you.
      The SDA church is the church with the true Spirit of Prophecy. God led me directly to that church through reading the bible and prayer then God told me the Sabbath would lead me home to Him, and He gave me dreams that were exactly like the writings of Mrs White before I ever read them so I can rest assured that they are not of any private interpretation.
      NJK; AKA Ronald Millstone has a completely private interpretation yet he publicly supports a known false prophet while attacking me. Thank you Jesus for the proof. Go build your Shangrila on the ocean Ronald, you need some serious help.

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    3. Ohhh...unlike you, I am not “blissfully” and indifferently ignoring the many SOP statements (LDE 59-61) and revelations (e.g. this one) that such would be the fate of the SDA Church if it did not hold up its part in this mandate/covenant from God. Indeed this is all like OT Israel’s failures...and just as in their case, you prefer to think that God cannot enter into any due judgement with once chosen Remnant Church. Which is why you make the perfect ‘candidly testing Ezek 14:1-9 half-prophet’ for them in this regard.

      It is quite indicative and telling to me that even with SDA half-prophets, when they of themselves begin to duly understand, like their model Elijah (PK 119-120ff), that the waywardness being done by the SDA Church should not, and indeed cannot, be left unpunished by God, then he no longer burdens them with messages which overlook these wrongs. And for me in particular, that long confirmedly occurred from my days at Andrews. A fig tree with leaves but no fruit should indeed be curse forever!!! (Matt 21:18-22; DA 580-588). But you are clearly still basely, self-servingly stuck in the variously quite prevalent SDA sin of thinking that a set time/event should/will trump righteousness. Hence you do make the perfect “candid” candidate to exposingly and debunkingly test the many SDA’s who share in some degree a similar spurious belief.

      -[You do not have permission to (even try to) post my personal name. So don’t do it, and don’t moronically think it will change anything. In fact it could make you much more legally and judicially liable than you evidently can comprehend.]

      -I certainly don’t need your endorsement or encouragement about the NJK Project. So don’t flatter yourself. God has from its plannings start been an ample help to see it through. Fact is that, as amply explained and substantiated/documented on my blog, professed believers like you who in this life cannot live by the various Biblical Righteousness standards and mandate of the NJK Project just will prove themselves to not be acceptable for the relatively even more demanding standards and mandate of Christ’s New Jerusalem!! (e.g., Matt 25:31-45; LDE 218.3-219.3)...but of course you are too selfishly enthralled and deceived to ever begin to (especially timely) grasp this pivotal, Eternal Truth. (=4T 384-387)

      And FYI, it is neither appropriate, nor fair to be discussing your pointed issues on this other blog and this post on Ernie Knoll, so do submit any further statement that you may wish to post to my blog post which also discusses you, your (claimed) revelations and your ministry....particularly behoovedly, as anyone doing a specific Google search on “james tierney sda” will be referred to my blog postings about you as its top three hits. Spiritual blog post vs. spiritual blog post, it is quite telling when even Google (even if it may be merely its determining algorithms) has better Spiritual/Truthful discernment than you (cf. Luke 16:8)....indeed I am sure that they have verified the content of your own (Google-owned) Bogger posts (which are linked to from my post) and seen that my critic is quite valid and thus much more reliable!!! You most importantly indeed just do not (always) pass the Biblical prophetic testing (2 Thess 5:19-22)!!

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  35. NJK is a self reported dream interpreter and church theology extraordinaire. Since he is so good I look forward to his complete and unabridged interpretation of Daniel and Revelation!

    As for Ernie... No new dreams since January 2013 as he is too busy making videos defending his own skin. At this unprecedented time in earths history I find his lack of "vision" a direct proof that God is not using him! Here we sit on the verge of complete global financial collapse and God has no message for His people? We're also on the brink of a massive war (possibly a world war) and God has no messages for His people? Honestly I could care less if Vance Farrell or Ed Reid said things Ernie didn't like to hear! Is Ernie's message God's message or Ernie's message? If it is God's then God will defend it!!! If it is Ernie's then Ernie would need to defend it (and NJK :) as God would have no reason too!!!!

    Ernie is false and grasping at straws. Stay away from him folks!!!!!!!

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    1. As typical with you MoGreenMan, your comments are, at best, indifferently, obliviously uninformed (e.g, here) and/or Spiritually undiscerningly shallow/superficial (e.g, hereff)... You just can’t “help” yourself I gather....hence your, as here, inevitably, inherently slanderous/defamatory remarks...

      First of all, I am not (declaratively-speaking) “self-reported...”, but variously copiously/transparently “documented...” Look these up.... So if you have an actual substantive issue with that, then be responsible enough to engage these interpretations and theology which I have posted on my blog and websites head on...if you actually can...

      In regards to your cases-in-point deficient claims here:

      -Obviously you are uninformed of the special sub-index on my Theological Views blog which give references to my Eschatological interpretations and application of applicable prophecies in Daniel and Revelation (as well as Ezekiel)

      -Seems clear to me that God has given through Knoll in those 65 dreams enough “recollecting” light to SDA’s (i.e., contemporizing EGW’s revelations). They have chosen to still not heed it. So giving them “new light” in regards to would new developments is not Biblical. (=Ezek 14:1-5ff). Ernie Knoll has faithful been doing exactly what God had pointedly called him to do amongst “His People” SDA’s. As for this related belief that a ‘Financial/Economic Crisis/Collapse will launch Final Events’ claim, as discussed here that is all SDA Pseudo Prophesying.

      Any prophetic Financial/Economic Crisis/Collapse event will all as a “National Ruin” judgement (=Rev 18:6-24) which ensuingly comes after the Mark of the Beast (MOB) has been enforced (LDE 133-136), as the Four Winds have been released. Same thing, in regards to another one of the 4 Winds, for any “World War” scenario. (See in ‘Four Winds Section’ in here cf. here)So it would not “cause” Final (i.e. MOB precipitating) Events.

      -The “turning against point” with Knoll vs. SDA’s in general was in regards to ‘tithing storehouse’ issue, “officially” led by Ed Reid through his NAD Newsletter comments....so it is most fitting that Reid is responded to here as he indeed is Biblically/Spiritually wrong on that issue. (Further discussed in here).

      -By your ‘“let God” defend’ “logic” no SDA should ever write a single word “defending” EGW against all her critics out there and their many shallow/false/undiscerning objections and accusations, -including, tacitly, those right in the SDA Church in the form of members who just ignore or outrightly, silently reject her.

      You have been building on straws.....

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    2. MoGreenMan,

      You are exactly right. A true visionary should have remarkable insights in the books of Daniel and Revelation and have a message that addresses the current state of the world. What great riddle or difficult theological question would you like to see answered first?

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    1. That seems pretty bold for you to say Mo.

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  37. I am not associated with Adventists in any way, but have a question. Who is author of this blog and can they be reached by email?

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